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up next, a debate guru tells us what romney and obama did right and wrong this week and how they need to rethink their strategies. úwñoa >> chris: he has been called the nation's best political debate coach. he prepped george w. bush in 2004. john mccain in 2008 and michele bachmann and then mitt romney in this primary campaign. we asked brett o'donnell to join us today to talk about this week's debate and how both candidates need to recalibrate for the next one. the big i think it is fare to coming out of this debate is what happened to president obama. why did he do so poorly. obviously you were in the room but best guess what do you think his debate team failed to do to prepare him for wednesday night? >> three areas where you have to prepare a candidate. the first s they have to know the issues and policy on both sides. i think president obama s fine in that area. but the last two areas i think his team may have failed. the second is you have to have a strategy going into the debate to execute. and the final thing is you have to be mentally prepared. i don't think the president
up next, a debate guru tells us what romney and obama did right and wrong this week and how they need to rethink their strategies. úwñoa >> chris: he has been called the nation's best political debate coach. he prepped george w. bush in 2004. john mccain in 2008 and michele bachmann and then mitt romney in this primary campaign. we asked brett o'donnell to join us today to talk about this week's debate and how both candidates need to recalibrate for the next one. the big i think it is...
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big changes in the presidential race this week. the romney campaign was reenergized by the governor's strong performance in the first debate. but president obama got a big boost with a new jobs report that showed a sharp drop in the unemployment rate. we are going to have our own debate today between democratic governor martin o'malley of maryland and republican senator kelly ayotte of new hampshire. welcome to "fox news sunday." >> thanks for having us. >> great to be with you, chris. >> chris: start with the jobs numbers that came out friday. unemployment rate dropped to the lowest since president obama took office. the government said 114,000 jobs answered. in a us whohold survey, 873,000 more americans reported having jobs. senator ayotte, isn't the economy getting better? >> i think what is disappointing about the report is that the downtick we saw in unemployment is because of part-time work for economic reasons so people who want full-time jobs taking lower pay. you can't support a family on part-time work. and, of course, w
big changes in the presidential race this week. the romney campaign was reenergized by the governor's strong performance in the first debate. but president obama got a big boost with a new jobs report that showed a sharp drop in the unemployment rate. we are going to have our own debate today between democratic governor martin o'malley of maryland and republican senator kelly ayotte of new hampshire. welcome to "fox news sunday." >> thanks for having us. >> great to be...
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and so that's what he's going to do, paul ryan himself in kentucky this week and arguably, he's going to have a harder row to hoe here going into the first presidential debate and barack obama, everyone expected he would win and romney needs to put in a good performance and in fact did very well. the argument here is that paul ryan is so great and he will hold his own, but no one should underestimate joe biden. he's going to be okay out there. >> paul: this may be something of a trap for ryan because you know, the media expectation he's going to do so well and he's a numbers guy and knows his brief and so on, but widen is a real slasher and he's going to go after, i assume, mitt romney, hammer and tong. what does ryan have to do here in this debate? >> well, he's going to have to fight back, paul. there was once a debate called a kitchen debate. this is going to be the kitchen sink debate and joe biden is going to throw one kitchen sink after another at ryan and he is going to bring up the 47%, he will bring up the war on women, he will bring up bain capital. he'll throw all of this.
and so that's what he's going to do, paul ryan himself in kentucky this week and arguably, he's going to have a harder row to hoe here going into the first presidential debate and barack obama, everyone expected he would win and romney needs to put in a good performance and in fact did very well. the argument here is that paul ryan is so great and he will hold his own, but no one should underestimate joe biden. he's going to be okay out there. >> paul: this may be something of a trap for...
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they would prefer to have barack obama cleaning up barack obama this week, rather than joe biden cleaning up barack obama. >> what do you think? the vice presidential debate is coming up. >> it just so happens joe biden and paul ryan respect each other and get along well. those two were the ones that had all the protestants. i think this will be a fun debate, and enjoyable debate. joe biden has a good sense of humor. you are not going to see him paint barack obama in his debate. >> i hope it is more interesting. yes, there were 50 million people calling the first debate, and the question i have is, for how long? i was sitting there thinking, ok, obama did not show up to play, and this is unbelievably boring. if i did not have to do this for a living, i would turn on a show i wanted to watch. >> it depends on your perspective. i was fascinated, i was seized. my attention did not lapse for an hour-and-a-half. i have a medical question. if you saw the joe biden clip, how does a man of a certain age maintain such a high level of indignation continuously without getting a heart attack? can you
they would prefer to have barack obama cleaning up barack obama this week, rather than joe biden cleaning up barack obama. >> what do you think? the vice presidential debate is coming up. >> it just so happens joe biden and paul ryan respect each other and get along well. those two were the ones that had all the protestants. i think this will be a fun debate, and enjoyable debate. joe biden has a good sense of humor. you are not going to see him paint barack obama in his debate....
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president obama gave a nod, he knew what had happened. it was a subtle use. >> greta: how important do you think the vice-presidential debate is? >> i continuing it will be important for the week, in that is -- it is the only show in town. there is no other presidential debate. so for the next week, it will be vitally important, it's the only show in town. people will be watching it. in the end, i don't think it's going to play much. i don't think there is a history of presidential debates, let alone, vice-presidential debates. >> greta: paying attention to the heart beat. >> i tend to agree but i do think have you early voting and people are voting every day. so whether or not, you know, it's all about the momentum at this point. moment's changing on a daily basis from, debate to jobs numbers. this is the next big thing. if you are losing the next big thing, you are losing that day, that week. >> republicans think that paul ryan will just clean joe biden's clock. they think there is no contest here -- >> greta: i wouldn't think that. boy
president obama gave a nod, he knew what had happened. it was a subtle use. >> greta: how important do you think the vice-presidential debate is? >> i continuing it will be important for the week, in that is -- it is the only show in town. there is no other presidential debate. so for the next week, it will be vitally important, it's the only show in town. people will be watching it. in the end, i don't think it's going to play much. i don't think there is a history of presidential...
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everybody is talking about president obama's body demeanor this week. what does tanya reiman think. i want to start with the two candidates walking into the debate forum. >> all righty. >> we welcome president obama and governor romney. [cheers and applause] >> bill: okay. so the first thing i noticed was the president grabbing romney's arm. >> right. and talking his wallet. no, he didn't really. but he, you know, getting a little -- kind of semi hug. >> that's not the first thing i notice. the first thing i notice was the swagger that the president came out with. >> bill: he was bopping. >> his arms are swinging high. romney is not. he is very stiff when it comes to walking out an stage. then the hands meet. the patting goes on. the most interesting thing about that is as someone is trying to pat your arm demonstrating is he powerful. president obama comes across as powerful because is he patting. romney had the same amount of power going on. >> bill: do you believe that they actually think about what's going to happen when they walk out and how they are going to shake hands and th
everybody is talking about president obama's body demeanor this week. what does tanya reiman think. i want to start with the two candidates walking into the debate forum. >> all righty. >> we welcome president obama and governor romney. [cheers and applause] >> bill: okay. so the first thing i noticed was the president grabbing romney's arm. >> right. and talking his wallet. no, he didn't really. but he, you know, getting a little -- kind of semi hug. >> that's not...
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has the obama administration succeeded in making this a nonissue for the november 6 election? >> i think that they are trying to make it a nonissue for the election. but there has been too much misinformation. senator corker and i respect secretary clinton greatly. she has been the most the forth right of anybody in the administration. the president has hardly talked about it. ms. rice has told what she was told to say not what i think she really knew and as bob corker said in the clip earlier the one briefing from clapper and ms. clinton and the members of the secret service and the fbi was a nonbriefing. we need the facts and we need them now. >> geraldo: what about the tension that the best information that he had was what they gave and ambassador rice was merely echoing what the intelligence community had told her at the time? do you buy that? >> i think she was echoing what she was told to say. i don't think that is what the intelligence community was telling her. within 24 hours of the attack the intelligence community has told us they began to see evidence this was in f
has the obama administration succeeded in making this a nonissue for the november 6 election? >> i think that they are trying to make it a nonissue for the election. but there has been too much misinformation. senator corker and i respect secretary clinton greatly. she has been the most the forth right of anybody in the administration. the president has hardly talked about it. ms. rice has told what she was told to say not what i think she really knew and as bob corker said in the clip...
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. >> apparently after last week's debate, polls show obama trailing mitt romney by one point. yeah. one point or as is also known the thing that obama failed to make during last week's debate. >> a lot of people are saying the government is cook the books. >> look i got to say if you're cooking the books 7.8% unemployment is a [ bleep ] recipe. like the radish stew of jobless numbers. >> that was jon stewart in comedy central taking on those who questioned last week's drop in unemployment. the narrative of cooking the books. we heard it over and over. well that's going to wrap things up for me. thanks for your time. see you back here tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. eastern. joining me sean spicer, ron fournier, the journal editor in teach and jimmy williams and hogan gibbly. "now" with alex wagner is coming your way next. hi, alex. >> hey, thomas. radish stew. i'm kidding. something more than radish stew with 28 days to go team romney is etch a sketching the etch a sketch as the romney fortifies the wall of obfuscation. we will examine his latest recalibration. the obama camp gives it the bi
. >> apparently after last week's debate, polls show obama trailing mitt romney by one point. yeah. one point or as is also known the thing that obama failed to make during last week's debate. >> a lot of people are saying the government is cook the books. >> look i got to say if you're cooking the books 7.8% unemployment is a [ bleep ] recipe. like the radish stew of jobless numbers. >> that was jon stewart in comedy central taking on those who questioned last week's...
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in ohio last week, we had cbs/"new york times" poll saying ten points for obama. and a columbus dispatch poll saying nine points. frank newport the head of the gallup organization had a blog posting that was revealing. he said you have to subject the state polls to the judgment of experience. he said for example, take ohio. the president won there by less than five points last time around. this time around, the poll that said he is winning by ten, does it make sense he would do twice as well, the margin is twice as big this time around than it was in 2008 when everybody is pointing to closer election than in 2008. of course not. it doesn't make sense. take this with the nevada and ohio shifts because of outlier polls. p.p.p. interestingly enough had a poll that was the outlier in nevada, plus nine for obama. then two polls in ohio. as a result they move it across the line from tossup to lean obama. i would say this, though. step back just a little bit and look at the arch since april. president obama has gone from 220 solid states, electoral college votes to 196 t
in ohio last week, we had cbs/"new york times" poll saying ten points for obama. and a columbus dispatch poll saying nine points. frank newport the head of the gallup organization had a blog posting that was revealing. he said you have to subject the state polls to the judgment of experience. he said for example, take ohio. the president won there by less than five points last time around. this time around, the poll that said he is winning by ten, does it make sense he would do twice...
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president obama raised taxes on the the middle class until last week when he slipped up and said president obama never raised taxes but will raise them soon. it was mitt romney who said let detroit go bankrupt. then he saw what happened after the automobile loan from the federal government saved 1.5 million american jobs and ohio's economy. and all of a sudden, mitt romney says the auto loan, that was just a good idea. and mitt romney says he will be the president for all americans. don't forget that. even though he was caught on tape saying he can never convince 47% of americans to take responsibility for themselves. this is why mitt romney can't be let off the hook in the debate tomorrow night. but it's hard to press him on these issues when he doesn't even answer the questions. here it is. >> what is the biggest misconception about you in the public debate right now? >> we'll have to create more jobs, have less debt and shrink the size of government. >> misconceptions about you? >> you get to ask the questions you want and i get to give the answers i want. >> i hope there's a moment lik
president obama raised taxes on the the middle class until last week when he slipped up and said president obama never raised taxes but will raise them soon. it was mitt romney who said let detroit go bankrupt. then he saw what happened after the automobile loan from the federal government saved 1.5 million american jobs and ohio's economy. and all of a sudden, mitt romney says the auto loan, that was just a good idea. and mitt romney says he will be the president for all americans. don't...
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the obama campaign has been saying for weeks, the romney campaign as well, that they expect this race to get tighter as we get closer to election day so we're essentially seeing that play out in real time. you just mentioned that cnn/orc poll that effectively proves that. a lot of people will say that is because of the debate. mitt romney continues to gain momentum in the wake of the debate. president obama was off to a strong start here in ohio. the unemployment rate lower than the national average. the folks here really like the auto bailout, one out of every eight ohioans has a connection to the auto industry. so a lot of ohioans were expressing support for him, but now obviously things are getting tighter, martin. >> nbc's kristin welker fighting will.i.am very valiantly. thank you very much, kristin. we'll be right back. ♪ this is love, this is love, this is love ♪ [ female announcer ] most whitening strips promise full whitening results in two weeks or more. rembrandt® deeply white™ 2 hour whitening kit is proven to quickly remove surface stains and deep stains in just tw
the obama campaign has been saying for weeks, the romney campaign as well, that they expect this race to get tighter as we get closer to election day so we're essentially seeing that play out in real time. you just mentioned that cnn/orc poll that effectively proves that. a lot of people will say that is because of the debate. mitt romney continues to gain momentum in the wake of the debate. president obama was off to a strong start here in ohio. the unemployment rate lower than the national...
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did not answer last week. that is the preparation taking six days i'm not sure he is up to it. foreign policy, he has experience. to show he is competent for joe biden to get inside the numbers, paul ryan has been living with for 12, 15 years, chairman as young guy jumping over the republicans. that is too much to get by studying. >> andrea: you're alive. i was going to call em s unit for your vital signs. >> bob: yeah, ryan delivered numbers on the wrong side. he is still a right winger. joe biden has been in politics for 35 years. you take one minute of the goof here and make it funny. he is one of the skilled politicians in america. he will take him to the woodshed and expose the guys for what they are, which is a bunch of shams. >> eric: the obama campaign now is in desperation mode. panic mode. they saw a five-point lead turn in to three or four point deficit. they need him to step up and do something. >> andrea: they also -- >> eric: stop the slide. >> andrea: they might rely on immediate you to do the d
did not answer last week. that is the preparation taking six days i'm not sure he is up to it. foreign policy, he has experience. to show he is competent for joe biden to get inside the numbers, paul ryan has been living with for 12, 15 years, chairman as young guy jumping over the republicans. that is too much to get by studying. >> andrea: you're alive. i was going to call em s unit for your vital signs. >> bob: yeah, ryan delivered numbers on the wrong side. he is still a right...
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. >> i will do that for weeks at end. i will tell you that -- look, now what happens is i'm a firm believer in presidential politics and the expectation game. last night, obama was expected to do well, romney was not expected to do well. it was reversed. now, the expectations fall on romney to do well, the second time, and obama the expectations are lower. that's important. let me get to what charles krauthammer said who i admire a lot. that was solve morning at best. the idea that this guy answered the tax issue, you, the mainstream media, all the cable is absolutely outrageous that nobody has followed up and asked this guy specifically governor, when you come up with all these ridiculous statements that you going to save the fence, that you are going to cut everybody 20%. you are going to save social security and medicare and yet you are going to do it by cutting into certain tax loopholes and you won't name one loophole, where are you, bill? ask him the question. >> bill: listen, any comes in for an interview i certain
. >> i will do that for weeks at end. i will tell you that -- look, now what happens is i'm a firm believer in presidential politics and the expectation game. last night, obama was expected to do well, romney was not expected to do well. it was reversed. now, the expectations fall on romney to do well, the second time, and obama the expectations are lower. that's important. let me get to what charles krauthammer said who i admire a lot. that was solve morning at best. the idea that this...
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. >> you don't think there will be a better prepared president obama on stage next week? >> when you're not that bright, you can't get better prepared. >> lazy. not that bright. this is the president of the united states he's talking about. he was pressed about .comment. >> did you really need to call the president of the united states lazy? >> yes. i think you saw him admit it the night before when he delivered the pizzas. he said, you know, they're making me do this work. he didn't want to prepare for this debate. he's lazy and disengaged. >> now, we've seen this disrespect right from day one. it cannot be tolerated. mitt romney must denounce a n sununu's ugly talk. joining me now, opinion writer from the "washington post," and victoria defrancesco, a fellow at the university of texas and an msnbc contributor. thanks both of you for being here tonight. jonathan, calling the president lazy. how does governor romney allow this to be said on his behalf? >> he just allows to be said. this isn't the first time governor sununu has said impertinent things about the president.
. >> you don't think there will be a better prepared president obama on stage next week? >> when you're not that bright, you can't get better prepared. >> lazy. not that bright. this is the president of the united states he's talking about. he was pressed about .comment. >> did you really need to call the president of the united states lazy? >> yes. i think you saw him admit it the night before when he delivered the pizzas. he said, you know, they're making me do...
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the obama campaign saying the romney performance last wednesday was a performance. romney campaign saying the obama campaign is behaving like a seven-year-old kid playing checkers. he wipes the board off the table. >> gregg: reminds me of elementary school, liar, liar, pants on fire. we could go on and on. john roberts, thanks so much. >> air force one expected to touchdown in los angeles any moment. president heading to a private event followed by a campaign 30 days to victory concert at nokia theater in los angeles. it will be packed with celebrity supporters. president will make remarks along with actor and sinsel town george clooney and musical performances by many celebrities we'll get a live report a bit later on. >> heather: political battle breaking out over the number one issue this election season, jobs. on friday. the labor department reporting that the unemployment rate for september was right there, 7.8%. the obama campaign out to that go number to show that the recovery is picking up steam, but republicans say the actual jobs picture is far bleaker bec
the obama campaign saying the romney performance last wednesday was a performance. romney campaign saying the obama campaign is behaving like a seven-year-old kid playing checkers. he wipes the board off the table. >> gregg: reminds me of elementary school, liar, liar, pants on fire. we could go on and on. john roberts, thanks so much. >> air force one expected to touchdown in los angeles any moment. president heading to a private event followed by a campaign 30 days to victory...
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here we are how many weeks later? >> i'm asking if it works coming from paul ryan. >> can i ask you a question? how many weeks? >> two and a half weeks. >> two and a half weeks later? i think we're good. what did paul ryan say, willie? he said the response was slow, confused, and it is. in the middle of all this, the president thinks it's a bump in the road. i think two weeks later, not time to ask these questions? the biggest problem before was they did it the morning after all of this erupted. >> it was bad press by them. but what we pointed out early on is it was insults to americans to propose the idea that it was based on the youtube video. that people showed up with heavy weapons, rpgs and things like that as i said before to talk about a mouth breather in the united states that 3,000 people on youtube had seen. that was the insult. that wasn't the problem, that they went out publicly and said right away it was based on the video. >> bottom line, mark halperin, you look at all the polls, americans want to get ba
here we are how many weeks later? >> i'm asking if it works coming from paul ryan. >> can i ask you a question? how many weeks? >> two and a half weeks. >> two and a half weeks later? i think we're good. what did paul ryan say, willie? he said the response was slow, confused, and it is. in the middle of all this, the president thinks it's a bump in the road. i think two weeks later, not time to ask these questions? the biggest problem before was they did it the morning...
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and he's -- about a month -- two weeks ago the polls were broadly for obama. now it's closing a bit because of the male part. white males tend to be republican voters and they're coming back to romney a little bit after a bit. in ohio they're not. seems as if in ohio the bain capital message has sunk in. virginia, florida, the white vote will go to romney. >> what struck you about that apparent contradiction in the polling? >> i think you saw a little bit of that bounce kind of come down after the post-convention. you're seeing it sort of return to a place where it was very tight. you saw aa shift among independents in florida, which is what made up a lot of that shift. the striking thing about all three polls is how few persuadable voters there are. that's what these debates are usually about but it may wind up be something to turn out the base and fire up some of their people. >> one of the issue, i put this to both of you, one of the problems with mitt romney's campaign, which has been critiqued by those on the left and right, his friends and enemies, is th
and he's -- about a month -- two weeks ago the polls were broadly for obama. now it's closing a bit because of the male part. white males tend to be republican voters and they're coming back to romney a little bit after a bit. in ohio they're not. seems as if in ohio the bain capital message has sunk in. virginia, florida, the white vote will go to romney. >> what struck you about that apparent contradiction in the polling? >> i think you saw a little bit of that bounce kind of come...
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joining it's retrievable by obama. i don't think you get a second chance to make a first impression. and i think that romney really scored. i thought when he explained to people that tax cut on the rich would not be on the rich, it was a tax increase on the rich, it was a tax increase on small business employers and they employ 50% of the american workforce. by raising their taxes, you are undermining their ability to create be jos. that was brilliant. i thought that really, he took away, all kinds of arguments from obama. while obama can wait until the performance wears off and people forget how stumbling and hesitant and detached he was, what will remain is the ground that he ceded to romney. >> greta: i thought it was significant that 67 million people watched this, the largest number since i think 1992. chfts a measurement to -- which was a measurement to me of the enthusiasm for the election. i don't know which way it will fall. but it showed interest by the country. >> i think the same reason that they watched it
joining it's retrievable by obama. i don't think you get a second chance to make a first impression. and i think that romney really scored. i thought when he explained to people that tax cut on the rich would not be on the rich, it was a tax increase on the rich, it was a tax increase on small business employers and they employ 50% of the american workforce. by raising their taxes, you are undermining their ability to create be jos. that was brilliant. i thought that really, he took away, all...
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you can watch the vice presidential debate right here on cnn this week. joe biden/paul ryan go at it on thursday. the coverage begins at 7:00 eastern time. >>> the rumble in the air-conditioned auditorium lived up to the name last neat. fox news host bill o'reilly and jon stewart faced off in a debate at george washington university. some found it more entertaining than the presidential one. >> in man has offended -- this man over here has offended every single american. are you go to stand there -- are you sitting or standing? >> i read the bible. >> we are only as good as dpaish. >> i am short, but when you tell me i'm short, i don't blame the liberal weights or measures bureau or suggest my numbers are skews and i'm really 6'1" if only the lame street media would tell people. i trust i'm 5'7". >> you don't know this, but the feds pay for that licft. all right? >> if you missed it last night watch it online at therumble2012.com. >>> people are lining up to stroet for president, but the man they hope to elect is in ven venezuela. we'll go there live. the
you can watch the vice presidential debate right here on cnn this week. joe biden/paul ryan go at it on thursday. the coverage begins at 7:00 eastern time. >>> the rumble in the air-conditioned auditorium lived up to the name last neat. fox news host bill o'reilly and jon stewart faced off in a debate at george washington university. some found it more entertaining than the presidential one. >> in man has offended -- this man over here has offended every single american. are you...
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either couldn't or wouldn't do last week against mitt romney. >> right. professor reich, paul ryan is known for being an encyclopedia of numbers but can he effectively counter headlines like this one today, "gm to add 2,000 jobs in michigan"? if this race comes down to ohio and the auto rescue plays a major role there, that's a tough headline to counter for mr. ryan, isn't it? >> it certainly is. and what people in ohio and in the midwest generally know is the auto bailouts were critically important. ryan and romney said no to the auto bailouts and the president and the vice president said yes in the face of a lot of criticism and they have been proven right. paul ryan is an ideologue. he has a record and joe biden can pick on that record. joe biden can say to paul ryan, that $716 billion that you and romney keep on saying we are robbing from medicare, we are not robbing from medicare. we're actually extending the life of medicare. you, ryan, you use that 7$716 billion in your budget plan and yet you put it in there based upon you actually turning medicar
either couldn't or wouldn't do last week against mitt romney. >> right. professor reich, paul ryan is known for being an encyclopedia of numbers but can he effectively counter headlines like this one today, "gm to add 2,000 jobs in michigan"? if this race comes down to ohio and the auto rescue plays a major role there, that's a tough headline to counter for mr. ryan, isn't it? >> it certainly is. and what people in ohio and in the midwest generally know is the auto...
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were not classified, trace. >> and, james, have you reported on an internal dispute deep inside the obama administration and the intelligence community over this attack? >> yeah. we have previously reported that senior members of the president's national security team made a secret finding on september the 12th that benghazi was a terrorist attack. and, yet, it was three days later that u.n. ambassador susan rice, you will recall, went on all the sunday shows to insist that the killings were the result of a spontaneous mob. well, the next day fox news has learned high level intelligence officials has reached out to several independent security contractors and had them review these images of the mortar damage at that annex. the contractor sited the angles and fragmentation patterns to detect two more mortar teams using g.p.s. devices to score hits. armed with these outside assessments, the intel officials internally rebutted susan rice's claims and the very next day matt olson, head of the national counter terrorism center ended this internal debate when he testified publicly to the united
were not classified, trace. >> and, james, have you reported on an internal dispute deep inside the obama administration and the intelligence community over this attack? >> yeah. we have previously reported that senior members of the president's national security team made a secret finding on september the 12th that benghazi was a terrorist attack. and, yet, it was three days later that u.n. ambassador susan rice, you will recall, went on all the sunday shows to insist that the...
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and i think the reason obama has never been able to pull away, even when romney had two pretty bad weeks, is that in the end there's this rubber band effect that they go, well, i'd almost like to give him another shot, but this is really frightening and really painful. >> well, nobody is ever going to pull away in this political system. so that's never going to happen. we always -- >> no, i disagree. i think he could have. if there was a moment to pull away, and the only thing that snaps it back is this feeling of things aren't -- >> the race was always going to be close. i don't think anybody would deny that. but let's be clear. let's look at where we've come. 800,000 jobs were being lost the first time the president read the unemployment report. i know these are just statistics for people in washington. that's real lives in america. 31 consecutive months of positive job growth. are we growing as fast as we'd like to? no. but it takes a long time to dig out of this avalanche of tremendously bad decisions that preceded the obama presidency. and let's understand this. one thing they saw i
and i think the reason obama has never been able to pull away, even when romney had two pretty bad weeks, is that in the end there's this rubber band effect that they go, well, i'd almost like to give him another shot, but this is really frightening and really painful. >> well, nobody is ever going to pull away in this political system. so that's never going to happen. we always -- >> no, i disagree. i think he could have. if there was a moment to pull away, and the only thing that...